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 Post Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: The Day of Silence
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You may or may not of heard of this national date if you live in America. It is for Lesbians and Gays and those that support them to take a day of silence. I myself went the whole day when it came around. I was wondering, although it was long ago, I noticed no one mentioned it and I was wondering who participated in it? If not for the whole day, for how long?
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 Post Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject:
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 Post Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:23 pm    Post subject:
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Didn't know it existed, wouldn't have cared had if I did.
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 Post Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject:
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I'm with Cray. My voice will reach new heights that day. Wink
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 Post Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:47 pm    Post subject:
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Since I play alot of First Person Shooters...I'll be sure to turn up the volume and give them a 21 gun salute.

First I'll start with the guns, then the grenades, then the rockets, then the missiles, then the tanks, then the plasma guns, then the nukes, then planet busters.

And then for the finale, a continuous loop playback of Leia singing.
(Thank you Han for helping me remember about that one.) Joke
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I dont agree with gays. Unnatural. Doesn't mean I ignore them or anything. I know a guy who's gay and I still talk to him and stuff.
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I have no issues with homosexuals personally, I just don't see why everything needs be a cause or special day for every single activist lobby.
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While I am completely tolerant of the fruits of all colors, I too am wondering why every single group needs a holiday... I have Aspergers syndrome and they dont give US a day...
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Shows how much some people listen to or know... and obivously either it is not much or they shield themselves. Then you wonder, "why do gays need a day?" Because they ARE ignored. In fact quite recently people have actually started to use them in conversations. Wow. Great step for civil rights people. Like they say this day and everything about it is one step forward and your homophobe is in fact two very large steps back. But I will say nothing more on this topic so you all may realize what you just said and how you have marginalized on them even more. Its sick how we treat human rights with, "I just don't see why everything needs be a cause or special day for every single activist lobby." Rolling Eyes
Now I wonder what white activists for black rights felt.
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I'm not against them having a voice, far from it. What I AM objecting to is the fact that everything that happens that could remotely inconvenience them is immediately subjected to the status of hate crime. And I would be the absolute LAST person to be objecting to the civil rights of homosexuals and bisexuals, but not every political "minority" deserves unimpeded and rampant recognition.

I recognize the fact that they are still humans, and the only difference to the way I interact with a gay man as opposed to a heterosexual man is who I point out to them on the streets... thats it. Why should I be subjected to their propoganda and their political speeches when I am not their target audience?
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Carnor Jax wrote:
I'm not against them having a voice, far from it. What I AM objecting to is the fact that everything that happens that could remotely inconvenience them is immediately subjected to the status of hate crime. And I would be the absolute LAST person to be objecting to the civil rights of homosexuals and bisexuals, but not every political "minority" deserves unimpeded and rampant recognition.

I recognize the fact that they are still humans, and the only difference to the way I interact with a gay man as opposed to a heterosexual man is who I point out to them on the streets... thats it. Why should I be subjected to their propoganda and their political speeches when I am not their target audience?


I feel pretty much the same way...and I also reserve days of silence to mourning of the dead...not how much one group is ignored.
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Indeed. I won't do this no talking buisiness as I am not homosexual. I have nothing against homosexuals, but I don't think they should get thier own day. I don't see "Depression Day" or "Acid Reflux Day" or anything other types of days. I see holidays, and days to honor the dead. A holiday shouldn't be for a minority and thats why I disagreed with those protests for illegal immigration. Yes, they are people, but why do they deserve a holiday, but there isn't a "Straight Person Day" or "Bisexual Day"? No one group should be better then others and thats what homosexuals want - I don't see a purpose for this holiday.
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I feel pretty much the same way...and I also reserve days of silence to mourning of the dead...not how much one group is ignored.


Yeah... but you do know because of them being ignored in the 60s, when aids was first being documented, they were the first Americans hit? Did you also know that they were hit in widespread numbers? Oh and that they were ignored because of the fact of being gay? Its not far from the truth nor is it a big secret. They were ignored. They still are ignored. And not just by people like you, but by other groups who call them "unnatural". Heck, there is a story of two men holding hands in Iran and then getting hung on site for it, because it was "unnatural." Yeah, lets ignore them, no big deal. I see nothing wrong with it, its unnatural right? Who cares.
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Note to self: Ban activism on VIII... it's just annoying and leads to baiting.
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It is unnatural... A man and a man is not natural... and woman and a woman is not natural.
Do you see a guy lion humping a guy lion? NO, if it is not natural for them, whats makes it natural for humans?
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It is unnatural... A man and a man is not natural... and woman and a woman is not natural.
Do you see a guy lion humping a guy lion? NO, if it is not natural for them, whats makes it natural for humans?


Actually... I have seen two girl dogs hump one another. And I do believe it is unnatural. As in reality it is lust attempting to break out in another form, since most Gays, Lesbians and Bisexuals do it for the sex and that also falls under vanity. However, it is freedom of choice to be oneself, as would God's design in the Catholic Catechism would explain. Oh boy do I love the Social Justice section, the Catholic Church explains the best supports from the bible. I know a Bisexual and quite a few Lesbians... and I have a story about my advocatory attitude helping others. Please don't use that "unnatural" argument, its old and is not democratic at all. But, then again, Gay rights isn't that much of a thing to want, who cares if they are isolated from others like immigrant slaves in our country or immigrants from Mexico, Cuba, Haiti, etc. for that matter, who cares? We get a better economy, and when we isolate Gays, Lesbians and Bisexuals public and worldwide opinion goes up. Don't come to me with this "unnatural" argument and whine about Bush, as some of you conservatives have.
I believe it was the Catechism that said humility was exalted before God, proud as much of you are in this argument, and above others you seem. Hey, Stalin and Hitler Slaughter Gays, Lesbians and Bisexuals, and our ignorance toward them as slaughter a few, but who cares? Lets not have a day for them, don't need one at all. We remember who they are in the political forum... kind of. We can live without a day of remembering them. It may throw the morals of our nations (Britain, America, etc. Democracies) out the door but who cares? Bush shreds the constitution we live in arrogance, no matter.
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but...
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*gets married, gives birth to children and dies*
From the desk of Reverend. Matthew from the COM our mascot Penguin all verdicts are finel! says:
lol

"Tare meus armo , EGO vadum crudus , quod rip meus pes , EGO vadum scream , tamen EGO mos nunquam trado U.R.I. quod EGO mos pugna ut nex , si ut est quis postulo exsisto."

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I don't care if homosexuals do whatever they want. I just feel the need to say I hate their way of life (read, way of life, NOT them). Don't you dare compare it to racism. A conscious choice is far different than nationality, skin tone or what have you by birth.

Gays have rights. They've had them since, I don't know, the COUNTRY'S FOUNDING. Some peoples' feelings will never change, but they have rights. Just because they can't (usually) participate in something defined by the church or by another religion doesn't mean they're being descriminated against or some such crap. Churches don't have to expect the liberalization of the world.

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Hey Brote, my dog used to hump me when he was a puppy. Let's legalize human-dog marriage. Very Happy
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Hawt.Joke But seriously, people... keep it civil or the lock comes down.
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In my supreme moderation experience, there is absolutely nothing wrong going on here.
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Alright, I've got to offer a scientific opinion here, mainly because I read a whole friggin' article on this subject and maybe telling someone about it will help me forget it, in all its disgusting-ness.

Side-note: I really don't care what Gays do or don't do. I'm not trying to discriminate here. And also this whole post will probably be deleted after somone sees the words 'Animal Genitals' and 'Dakota Fanning' in the same post.






Well, awhile back I found an article titled 'Gay animals'. At first reading, I was appalled at the mental image of animal genitals 'doing their thing'. But then I started thinking (Doesn't happen often people).

'Animals represent nature in a way, right? And isn't homosexuality supposed to be "Unnatural?" ' So I clicked the link.

I covered my eyes for fear of a big banner depicting animal gentials 'doing their thing'. Luckily the only banner at the top was just an ad for Enzyte, and some gay little quiz thing. I really don't care wether that person was Usher, Snoop Dogg, or Dakota Fanning.

Anyways, Sparing the boring details, graphs, and evidence, the article basically stated that not only is there a percentage of gay little forest animals, but it's quite large. Like 20% have engaged in homosexual activity (if you need the proper definition of sexual activity, go ask mommy) or something like it (NOTE: Margin of Error: 20%).

So, unless this whole article was just to attract attention to Enzyte and some gay little quiz, I think Homosexuality is plenty natural. I just think it's nasty and prefer heterosexuality.
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Well, to be honest I'm appalled at what some have said in this thread.... I'll just leave it at that.
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But then again, one single article doesn't represent fact. That's just one person's opinion/explanation or study on the matter. It's hardly considered fact. I have one question about that article: How were they able to determine the sexual orientation of a forest animal? Unless they have telekinetic powers that are able to read animal's thoughts, I highly doubt they've proven anything. My dog used to hump bundles of sheets on my bed - does that make him sexually attracted to bed sheets? You see my point? You can't judge animals like that.

I have nothing against gays as people. My one friend in high school came out to me my senior year and I haven't broken off our friendship because of that. I just don't agree with their lifestyle and the way they chose to live their life. It's disgusting and yes, unnatural.
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Well, me though I do not support homosexuality I do not mind it. On that day I didn't stay quiet or whatever because I didn't even know what was going on.

Personally if people prefer to be homosexual well that is their business not mine so I pretty much just keep my opinions and what not to myself.

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Exactly. What you do in your bedroom/shower/backseat/wherever else you like going at it is your own business, and who you do it with is as well. I don't see any "Straight Parades", for example or a day of silence for heterosexuality. And if anything, wouldn't a day of moaning, grunting, or screaming be more appropriate? Joke


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I could not give a shit either way ... people are people, its as simple as that. Everyone has their particular vice. I, like Jax, have Asperger's syndrome. I don't advertise the fact and I certainly do not demand special treatment (mostly because its a psychological disorder and people would only do it to humor me anyway Joke).

I find it interesting that people who are different, and who know they are different, strive to be judged on the same legal and moral compass that "normal" people are judged on.

People do not need a church to tell them they are married. They have a different sexuality to what the church wants, so why not have a different marriage as well. Its also a shitload easier to annul a marriage that doesn't exist in the legal framework.

To me, caring if a person is gay or straight is the same as caring if hey look different, or if they have a psychological or socialogical problem, or because they have a physical ailment. We are all people and should be treated as such.
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Actually, they do. Marriage is an institution of the church. Let them get a civil union.
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I have no problem what so ever with gays, and they deserve equal rights, oh which by the way they do.

But they have done nothing to deserve a day of silence. If you want a day of silence for the soldiers in Iraq, I'd superglue my mouth shut, they've earned that right far beyond anything I in my life have ever done. People like MLKJ I could see deserving a day of silence, but you know what? If he were alive, I bet he wouldn't ask for it. You don't ASK for awards or recognition or respect, you earn it, and people give it to you of their own free will.

Oh and guess what? I hate to break it to you, but there is no "normal" person. No person in the world is completely alike another, even identical twins, or triplets, have slightly different looks, and thing very differently. I would know, I have eight friends that are twins/triplets. Now, people have certain tendencies when you view ONE field, such as this, but that makes no one normal. I know I'm not normal, no one here is normal. There is no normal person on earth.

And, it is unnatural. Know why? Because if every person on earth were gay, guess what? Humanity's gone! Humanity wasn't MEANT to be gay, but hey, if you for some reason are, I won't keep you from doing anything, or saying anything. And, while a church may keep you from being married, that's why it's called a religion! You choose to believe, and only once you die will you KNOW if you were right or wrong. So really, you can't be a full on Christian and be gay too.

But like I've said, they should be allowed, in the government and the country as a whole, allowed everything equally. But uh, you can't consider yourself a social group, just like I don't consider myself in a social group just because I like Star Wars, or I wear glasses, or I like track, or Call of Duty, or ice-cream, etc.

And just because your discriminated against, doesn't mean you deserve a day of silence either. One could argue white minor males are the most widely discriminated social group of all. Why? Well, since we're white, just about anything we say can be considered racist, if we happen to accidently look at a girl the wrong way, we can get harrasment charges, and because we're young, no one will listen to us, even if we're using perfectly reasonable logic.


So I'm not going monk-style on this day of silence.
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I think kypjargon summed it up perfectly.

Also, homosexuality IS unnatural. But if something that slows down or stops the human race is unnatural, why care for the old, the sick and the disabled? That's unnatural, and what separates us from most animals; we're unnatural. We break the laws of nature.

Nonetheless, a 'Gay Day' is a silly idea. Homosexuals get a day but the thousands of Africans who die in civil wars EVERY DAY don't? Wonderful Rolling Eyes
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Well, that least we all can agree they don't need their own day, I guess.
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Well, that least we all can agree they don't need their own day, I guess.


I actually don't agree, thank you.
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I actually don't agree, thank you.

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1. Africans are dying, yes, but they are dying in other countries, to create a day for non-USA problems is, well, stupid. Otherwise one might say, "Why not have the India Indpendence Day?" , "Why not make a remembrance for the rape of china?" etc etc

This 'Day of Silence' is highly mis-intrepreted. It is NOT a day where you SUPPORT the homosexuality of others. However, it is to protest against the HARRESSMENT these people receive. Being 'loud' to go against the Day of Silence would be, in fact, supporting the HARRESSMENT of students.


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As with most political actions, there is passionate ongoing debate as to the specific strategies and goals.


Secondly, when those of you believe being gay is a CHOICE, it is not Some may make the choice, but most others don't. If fact, I have yet to meet somone that 'chooses' to be gay.
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People are depressed because they like members of the same sex, they are TERRIFIED that they're like this. One phrase, "I'm gay." can CHANGE an entire relationship. It's the ignorance people, yes churches, place out there that creates these violences. Churches do have a sincere message, mostly, but the way people act on it is terribly off course.

And for those of you that say, 'I don't discriminate against gays, I just don't like their lifestyle' : What the hell?!?

"Hey Tom, I like you as a friend, but what you do makes me sick and its wrong, you're going to hell!" Typical reactions by most Christians.

People commit SUICIDE because those kind of people exist. Yes, you may not go up to them and say it, but others DO! I just do not understand how you can be truly friends with these people, if you hate their way of life.

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But then again, one single article doesn't represent fact. That's just one person's opinion/explanation or study on the matter. It's hardly considered fact. I have one question about that article: How were they able to determine the sexual orientation of a forest animal? Unless they have telekinetic powers that are able to read animal's thoughts, I highly doubt they've proven anything. My dog used to hump bundles of sheets on my bed - does that make him sexually attracted to bed sheets? You see my point? You can't judge animals like that.


I said 'engaged in homosexual activity', as in, 'Rover-on-Scooby action'. Although I think I may have said 20% are gay. If I did, I meant the scientific version, 'engaged in homosexual activity'. Sorry if I messed up, and Damn you if you messed. Joke

And the article, I believe, was written for a scientific study; as in the only variable was who the animals chose to 'get it on' with. Though it may have been a study by Mrs. Johnson's 3rd grade science class. I don't remember.


As for my stance, I think Arlyn, Ravik, and James all bring up excellent points. And Arlyn, I personally meant not that 'I hate their way of life and it sickens me', but that 'I wouldn't do it myself, but whatever, they can do what they want. Free country.'
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Tolerance and accepting are two different things. Tolerance is practiced in schools for Lesbian and Gay teachers, until they are open about it in general conversation and then the parents hear, they complain. This is the time the school could say its their free speech and we can't change that, INSTEAD, the governmental body of the school approached the teacher. Guess what it told her? Shut up and don't practice anything more then teaching or your fired.
Just so you know this is a true story that happened in my school.
If a black man said he was black to the world as a teacher, they wouldn't care. Its his right and HE fought for it, he and his ancestors by living fought for it and won a month of remembrance, lets not so quickly forget Black Friday and the million man march. It sickens me to hear people say that fighting for your rights and expressing them in silence on a special day is unnecessary. Black men and women and children WERE slaves and once in our constitution we supported it. Don't think we are a good democracy for a second, we are a changing democracy, one in which minorities have to fight for their rights.
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Have we truly accepted same-sex partners? Um... no, we have tolerated them. I believe it was the leader of the Aryan Nation who put Tolerance best, "why should we tolerate them? Why should we tolerate what we know is evil." Accepting is accepting something for what it is and enjoying what it can bring for all of us, tolerance is not the same.
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Bi/homosexuals do not disgust me, in fact a few of my friends are actually bisexual, and I simply do not pay minds when they are showing their "unnatural" side. In fact, what repulses me is the words spoken by Nevin, Han, and Gavin. Yes, you have your rights not to dislike bi/homosexuals, but that does not warrant a blatant attack such as was hidden in your messages.

On another note: I have a borderline case of Asperger's as well, though it's a iffy situation seeing how I don't have the full negative effects characterized by a primary case of Asperger's syndrome.
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Blatant attack? If I remember correctly, we were mocking this ridiculous day of silence.
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I don't think its 'ridiculous' at all. It's to bring people's attention to the harressment bi/homosexuals receive. No doubt at your school, the people that participate in the 'DoS' [Day of Silence] are made fun of or tempted to talk. Why?

Not to mention, the last day of silence at my school, people wore banners saying how they hated gays or 'I'm straight' and others sang loudly, like suggested by some of our fellow players.

Brote brought up an amazing point. Tolerance. If you really don't care about the harressment people receive, why talk louder and SING louder? All you do is create the problem. You may not take it the next step, but people will see you doing that. All the singer or loud-talker does, is create far more problems and a poor example of what America is. Instead of being reverant or tolerate!

Though I highly disagree with this point, by Ravik:


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Bi/homosexual people do deserve these types of protest, you have no idea what it is like to be one of them, or maybe you do.... Any ways, there are amazing people; politicians, military officers, teachers, doctors, nurses, actors, actresses, etc that are bi/homosexual. They may or may not be open about it, but they have earned their place and the right to express the harressment they receive.

This topic is CLEAR evidence of what people do and how they act when 'homosexual' comes up. They either ignore that it happens, they say they don't care, or they take evasive action.

So, sing on the Day of Silence, encourage the secret hidden thoughts of suicide in one's mind and your blatant lack of respect and knowledge of the harressment.

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Blatant attack? I see people voicing opinions, much like Brote. Some people don't agree with homosexuality. I have no issue, one way or the other, but I get annoyed with any cause or group that takes itself too seriously and demands their own special day for something.
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That Westboro Baptist Church group was in town today at the funeral of a soldier who died in Iraq. There was a silent protest there, protesting the hateful stuff they said.
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DEMANDS?!

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Show me proof that people DEMAND for a 'Day of Silence'

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The lambasting of people who opt not to recognize something that may be against their beliefs, and insisting that those who do are the good, the right, and the pure?
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Still didn't answer my question. Wink
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Coercion by guilt=Underhanded demanding. Wink I don't see people getting bashed for not celebrating Christmas, or May Day, or what have you. But, apparently, act out against the minority-rights movements and you're an automatic bigot.
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