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Seperate characters from players?
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Brote Heckler
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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Characters
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Characters are different from one another right? Like souls? Then how come in the game everyone approaches each character of another player, if it is one of the characters of the player, as if it is the same as the other player's characters?

I don't get it, why do we have rules that apply to all characters of a player, then just them to one? I mean isn't this where the admins get the job of keeping people in check and storylines correct?

I mean the characters are not always the player's same, they are sometimes canon. I don't understand why there is a divide if this is a "RPG."

I would like to suggest having characters seperate from players.
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Alex says:
it wont be a Brote-style
Alex says:
but...
Noo... not Neimodia, you Rebels how?! says:
I have a style named after me now?
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lol

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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 5:45 pm    Post subject:
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WTF are you talking about.
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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject:
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Umm.. Can you please re-type that in a way that I can comprehend what you're trying to say?
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Brote Heckler
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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:11 pm    Post subject:
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I was a little ticked on the subject sorry...

If a player has more then one character then more then not all the characters are considered a single component, most of the rules justify this. It has made characters bland in some aspects. So why not seperate them and have good role-playing between characters? What if your characters are not even in the same faction for a new start? How about you having some good quality role-playing with some different characters because now they are enforced as different? My questions.
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Alex says:
it wont be a Brote-style
Alex says:
but...
Noo... not Neimodia, you Rebels how?! says:
I have a style named after me now?
Alex says:
lol

Crazed says:
*gets married, gives birth to children and dies*
From the desk of Reverend. Matthew from the COM our mascot Penguin all verdicts are finel! says:
lol

"Tare meus armo , EGO vadum crudus , quod rip meus pes , EGO vadum scream , tamen EGO mos nunquam trado U.R.I. quod EGO mos pugna ut nex , si ut est quis postulo exsisto."

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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject:
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I still don't know what you're trying to say, but I'll take a shot at it.

Are you suggesting players have characters in multiple factions? If so, that is a prime way to cheat and I don't see that happening in the near future.
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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:45 pm    Post subject:
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Characters in different factions isn't happening any time soon, if at all. There is a limit to what characters can do...that is one of them.

As for making characters individuals and stuff, that's the person's own decision. We're not going to make a rule telling you how to play your characters, though variety is certainly good and basically necessary to a good experience.
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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:52 pm    Post subject:
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I think I get what he's saying.

I think that if a person has multiple characters, it seems people interact with that persons characters rather indefferently...like they were all the same character.

Although I have yet to see it.
I see that Ams get's different reactions due to who he is playing (Ams or Shayera), samewith Gavin Young and his characters.
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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject:
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That is the point I was putting across, different "characters" will think different things and will align accordingly, if they can't then they have to follow the guide of the rest of the characters of the player, that makes them bland. Either you make all your characters alike or you make them slightly different, but you can't stray from the core. If you want to have a good guy and a bad guy you have to pick and choose then, the characters aren't free ranged.
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Alex says:
it wont be a Brote-style
Alex says:
but...
Noo... not Neimodia, you Rebels how?! says:
I have a style named after me now?
Alex says:
lol

Crazed says:
*gets married, gives birth to children and dies*
From the desk of Reverend. Matthew from the COM our mascot Penguin all verdicts are finel! says:
lol

"Tare meus armo , EGO vadum crudus , quod rip meus pes , EGO vadum scream , tamen EGO mos nunquam trado U.R.I. quod EGO mos pugna ut nex , si ut est quis postulo exsisto."

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 Post Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject:
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Okay, I think I understand now and you bring up a good point.

But unfortunately, we can't go around and rule over people with what they can do and can't do with their own characters. Sure, if you have multiple characters, their personalities and quirks should be different, but if someone isn't disciplined to do that, there's really nothing we can say about it. We're here to ensure the game runs smoothly, not be tyrants over how to play your character.
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 2:24 pm    Post subject:
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Brote Heckler wrote:
That is the point I was putting across, different "characters" will think different things and will align accordingly, if they can't then they have to follow the guide of the rest of the characters of the player, that makes them bland. Either you make all your characters alike or you make them slightly different, but you can't stray from the core. If you want to have a good guy and a bad guy you have to pick and choose then, the characters aren't free ranged.


I get exactly what you mean, and you have an extremely good point. I know of one person trying to do this, but I really don't think theres a way to stop it.
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 2:29 pm    Post subject:
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Unfortunately, not without giving CMAC more power than I'd be comfortable with. And of course, there's the situation if all of the characters are co-workers and such, such as long-time squadmates in an army. But there are other cases where it borders on absurd.
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject:
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Plus, alot of people get confused about who exactly can be talking. For example, Brote, sometimes when you post in Galactic Comms, I don't know who you're talking as, so I tend to treat you as just one entity.
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:51 pm    Post subject:
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I always, at least for the past few weeks now, sign them and I got a lot of people catching onto that self check, is it my fault you don't look?
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Alex says:
it wont be a Brote-style
Alex says:
but...
Noo... not Neimodia, you Rebels how?! says:
I have a style named after me now?
Alex says:
lol

Crazed says:
*gets married, gives birth to children and dies*
From the desk of Reverend. Matthew from the COM our mascot Penguin all verdicts are finel! says:
lol

"Tare meus armo , EGO vadum crudus , quod rip meus pes , EGO vadum scream , tamen EGO mos nunquam trado U.R.I. quod EGO mos pugna ut nex , si ut est quis postulo exsisto."

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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject:
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I think he meant before you started doing it. I admit, I had trouble figuring out who you were talking as before you started doing it as well.
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject:
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Well this is why I made separate accounts for Titus and me... so people realise who is who...
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 9:41 pm    Post subject:
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Han Solo wrote:
I think he meant before you started doing it. I admit, I had trouble figuring out who you were talking as before you started doing it as well.


I always thought it was obivous it was Brote... I mean who else would it be... Unless of course you mean my NPCs who are I think I always showed I was talking as before hand.
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Alex says:
it wont be a Brote-style
Alex says:
but...
Noo... not Neimodia, you Rebels how?! says:
I have a style named after me now?
Alex says:
lol

Crazed says:
*gets married, gives birth to children and dies*
From the desk of Reverend. Matthew from the COM our mascot Penguin all verdicts are finel! says:
lol

"Tare meus armo , EGO vadum crudus , quod rip meus pes , EGO vadum scream , tamen EGO mos nunquam trado U.R.I. quod EGO mos pugna ut nex , si ut est quis postulo exsisto."

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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:07 pm    Post subject:
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No, we assumed it was Brote and it turned out it was one of your other characters. Remember, this was before you were stating who it was at the end of the post.
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject:
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Different text colors can be AMAZING for differentiating between characters.
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject:
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I'm pretty sure that's not the point of this thread, Swali.
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 Post Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject:
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Yeah, but when trying to tell the difference, it helps. I know what he's trying to say, but there's not a lot we can do besides say, "Shame on you."
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 Post Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 3:29 am    Post subject:
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Swali wrote:
Yeah, but when trying to tell the difference, it helps. I know what he's trying to say, but there's not a lot we can do besides say, "Shame on you."


Well, "shame on you" goes about as far as the color of the text... beyond that... Rolling Eyes
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Alex says:
it wont be a Brote-style
Alex says:
but...
Noo... not Neimodia, you Rebels how?! says:
I have a style named after me now?
Alex says:
lol

Crazed says:
*gets married, gives birth to children and dies*
From the desk of Reverend. Matthew from the COM our mascot Penguin all verdicts are finel! says:
lol

"Tare meus armo , EGO vadum crudus , quod rip meus pes , EGO vadum scream , tamen EGO mos nunquam trado U.R.I. quod EGO mos pugna ut nex , si ut est quis postulo exsisto."

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