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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:08 pm    Post subject:
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act out against the minority-rights movements and you're an automatic bigot


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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject:
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Grah I hate debates like this. It'll eventually turn into a religious/political debate which are just annoying and require a crapload of posting. I like to leave it like this: I'm not homosexual/bisexual. I have nothing against what they do. I've never met a homosexual/bisexual so I can't tell what they're like. What I do know is that they're people, and they get pleasure differently then me. So what? Its what they want, and its not hurting anyone. They're just people with different wants I say we let people have thier desires.
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Thank You VVD, you are exactly what people need to be like.
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act out against the minority-rights movements and you're an automatic bigot


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Because the majority means nothing... sounds really democratic. Now, I'm not saying that everyone should run around screaming racial and sexual epithets. But some people may not support a cause for whatever reason, and hey, guess what? That's their prerogative as a human being and you have no right to tell them that they are wrong, stupid, or sick for that, and that goes on both sides of the debate.


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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject:
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Ams, I'm not saying they have to SUPPORT the cause, but we are talking about the Day of Silence and what it truly stands for. We are talking about harressment. That is UNACCEPTABLE.
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I believe I just said that.Joke
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 Post Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:16 pm    Post subject:
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Good. Cool
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Yay. However, bashing Marvel fans is 100% acceptable. Joke
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Or Shayera. Evil or Very Mad
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No, that's a hanging offense. Joke
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Ams Jendob wrote:
Yay. However, bashing Marvel fans is 100% acceptable. Joke


Grah! Lets see Superman beat Doctor Doom!
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I can easily see that. Joke
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ROFL Amazing how quickly the conversation turned from a debate over Homosexuals to a stupid Marvel Comic conversation... Joke
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One is an incendiary topic, the other isn't. Joke But seriously... while we should stay on topic, I think the topic has been addressed.
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And for those of you that say, 'I don't discriminate against gays, I just don't like their lifestyle' : What the hell?!?

"Hey Tom, I like you as a friend, but what you do makes me sick and its wrong, you're going to hell!" Typical reactions by most Christians.


Okay, first of all, it's not like that at all. I respect him as a friend and there is no way in hell I would come out and say that to his face. Plus, he knows I don't agree with homosexuality and even jokes about it. I think that's saying a lot right there. That's what makes a friendship. Don't start making sweeping generalizations.

As for blatant attacks - how do you even come to that conclusion? We're not standing along the road and screaming, "OMG! WE HATZ GAYS!11!!!" We're allowed to speak our mind and disagree with an issue. As you're protesting the way gays are being treated with the day of silence, we're protesting the complete opposite by being loud. See what I mean?
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Okay several things. First of all, I never said I would be loud or obnoxious on this Day of Silence, I just won't support it. My right.

Secondly, I don't personally know anybody that's gay, well I did before I moved, but at the moment I don't. I still don't have a problem with it.

Third, I do believe some people went a little too far, a little too offensive. I said why I don't think they deserve a day of silence. Being a doctor and gay doesn't mean you deserve anything. Being a soldier and gay doesn't mean anything, however, I WILL remember them because they were soldiers, because they were doctors, what they did for others with those proffesions, I will remember them by that, not by them being gay.

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And Brote, don't you dare start bringin Naziism into this. None of us have said that. No one here has said they want to harm anyone because they are gay, but if they do, then they are worse than the people who say they deserve a day for themselves, because of something they believe. Hey, way back when, Christians were persecuted, but we don't have a day of silence.


Again, I will say they don't deserve a day of silence. If you want respect, then when you are fired because for being gay, challenge it, bring it to court. Force people to see what you are and what you stand for. But don't you ever dare tell me I have to respect you, that I have to have a day of silence for you. If I feel you deserve a day of silence, I myself, will choose it. No one else can ever tell me I should, that's why I live in America, I have my own rights as well.
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Sorry for double-posting.

But because I don't feel gay's don't deserve a day of silence, you can not call me a bigot. I will accept you because you're skin is darker than mine, and I'll accept you because you're gay. But I will refuse to recognize anyone whom demands my respect.
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My opinion has been swayed. Arlyn, you have changed someone's mind in an internet debate. You deserve lke, a medal or something.

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LMFAO! ROFLMAO! LOL! Laughing

Thanks for cheering me up, Brote.
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Thanks Alexus, Joke And it goes to show that despite talking about a serious issue, we can still joke around and be ourselves.

Now, Han & Ravik, I have a question:

You both stated you do not support the Day of Silence. My question is, "Do you understand that it's about the harressment these individuals receive?"

If you understood that the Day of Silence is about the harressment these people receive because of their personal preferance, I can rightfully deduce that because
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that you are encouraging the harressment these individuals receive.

Now, if you disagreed with bi/homosexuals in general but acted normal on the Day, still talking, laughing or having a good time, but not protesting.... I don't have a problem with that. It's the ignorance of those that talk louder, laugh louder, etc to show their dislike. [Which they may have misunderstood the entire day!]

I think people should find out why students are participating in this silent protest, before automatically assuming they are supporting bi/same-sex intercourse.

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I don't see it aimed entirely at harrassment. If they don't want to be harrassed, then why call attention to themselves by making a big fuss over everything and picking a day of silence? How I see it, they're bringing it on themselves. People tend to ignore them and let them be when they stay quiet and go about their lives, but as soon as they demand things or pick days out of the year as "Gay Day" or whatever, people speak up. It's fuel to the fire.
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Gays can be Gay is they want to be gay... but they don't have to have a day for it... what have they done to deserve it?... Hell lets have an Irish American Day because they were oppressed a bit when they immagrated here, lets have Japaneese American day since they were put in Internment camps. Seriously now, what makes Gay people so special they they deserve a day over those put down in our past? Not everyone got a day out of the year for being stepped on, if it did happen it would be a holiday 70% of the days in year.

So let them be gay, but they can be normal people too. They do not need a special day since there is no tangible reason.
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Arlyn and VVD summed it up perfectly and I agree completely with them.

Savour this, you two. It'll never happen again Razz Not IC at least.
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Arlyn... I never said I'd try to be disrespectful.

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That's what I said I would do. I'm not the kind of person that if I disagree with something, I try to make an ass of myself against it.
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Gavin, Han: Wow.


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If they don't want to be harrassed, then why call attention to themselves by making a big fuss over everything and picking a day of silence? How I see it, they're bringing it on themselves. People tend to ignore them and let them be when they stay quiet and go about their lives, but as soon as they demand things or pick days out of the year as "Gay Day" or whatever, people speak up. It's fuel to the fire.


Why call attention to harressment? These people can rarely go out in public and show affection without being threatened or called names, or GREATLY frowned upon. This is not a'demand' either, Han, it is a simple optional movement students partake in to call the public's attention.

What's "fuel to the fire" is people that expect all of of this to suddenly go away or want them to shut up about and not express their love.
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Hell lets have an Irish American Day because they were oppressed a bit when they immagrated here, lets have Japaneese American day since they were put in Internment camps.


These are not problems in today's society, Gavin. Irish Immigration of the past has been resolved and is no longer revelant to our culture/society.

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Seriously now, what makes Gay people so special they they deserve a day over those put down in our past?


You do not get the 'Day of Silence' do you? It is a day in which students participate in a silent protest...It's not a holiday.

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They do not need a special day since there is no tangible reason.


HARRESSMENT! lol....seems like a good enough reason to me.... Razz


And, Ravik I never said you would.
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Even if straight people go out and start expressing their affections in public, it causes problems. Do you want to see every married couple, or boyfriend and girlfriend falling on each on other on top of chairs and benches at the mall, playing tonsil hockey? Joke
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That's not exactly what I meant.
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