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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:44 pm    Post subject: Strategy vs Roleplaying
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When will it end? I come on over and over hoping to see some character development or perhaps an advance in the plot, but no. Unless myself or a handful of other players do that, this game is nothing but Risk with cyan letters.

People, this is an RPG, not a strategy game. If you want the level of strategy you're engaing in, I suggest Total War titles. Not here. I would love to see a rule which requires a certain length to each post. A rule which requires some advancement of plot or conversation - anything to push the game out of the stagnant strategy of cyan text and make it something resembling an RPG.

If scenarios need to be written up, I would gladly help, but I am only one person. I just want to play in an RPG for once, no Empire at War.

Two cents.
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:45 pm    Post subject:
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Agreed. Although the conflicts are more or less over. Now it's more planet-hopping.
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:47 pm    Post subject:
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Agreed.
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:49 pm    Post subject:
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Agreed to a point. I have doubts about placing a post length rule, I think it should rather be a 'heavily suggested point'?
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject:
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I've been trying to include story in my planet-gaining posts. It takes some trying because you have to think of something to post about other than taking a planet.
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject:
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Um... well... Strategy is required to keep smaller galactic organization in the game. Mine is on the brink of becoming nothing. I had to watch in the start of the game worlds fall one by one to the Rebellion and Empire, now we are doing the same, the smaller more original factions. I would like to see some RPing myself, but that is what gets your faction killed, I know this well myself, so I refuse to have to go rules for lengths in my post and "scenarios". Though this game is moving into a direction where war is gone, it should be known that strategy and RPing in the game is still very much alive. In fact not so long ago was I RPing with Mister Serin while RPing a battle with Imperial Naval forces, I have also RPed my troops and now I watch the galaxy fall to this Confederacy. I have had enough of being stuck in the corner while that goes on, I will break out, and like the Vong no less. I will RP everything, but I refuse to standardize my post to a rack of more rules.

That is how I think on this, damn me if you will.
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 Post Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject:
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No, you're mistaken, Brote. You can still have all the strategy and cyan text you want, but write some character development out for crying out loud! Who is your character? What makes him tick? What does he dream about? These things aren't coming across in this game. All of the characters are cardboard cutouts - there's no depth to them at all!
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Sorry for the double post. I have a prime example of how to take a planet while still developing plot and character. Read my posts concerning Ziost. I claimed a planet and at the same time, developed my character into something more than, "he showed up and took it."
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Yes, I agree with everyone. In my opinion, rather than setting a word limit, instead somehow offer rewards to players who at least try to RP their posts rather than just "Cyaning" it. I don't know what kind of Reward might be offered, as IC rewards would be stupid, but I'm sure something could be thought of.
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The key is finding the right balance between strategy and character development. Intertwine them to what works. Too much strategy and your posts are dull and boring. Too much character development, and you get killed. Strike a balance, and you have beauty.
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Ams Jendob wrote:
The key is finding the right balance between strategy and character development. Intertwine them to what works. Too much strategy and your posts are dull and boring. Too much character development, and you get killed. Strike a balance, and you have beauty.


Exactly my point.
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I try to include character notes with everything I do. You know, say he's on a capital ship, something expanding on what he thought of it, then the tacticals.
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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject:
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Brote Heckler wrote:
Ams Jendob wrote:
The key is finding the right balance between strategy and character development. Intertwine them to what works. Too much strategy and your posts are dull and boring. Too much character development, and you get killed. Strike a balance, and you have beauty.


Exactly my point.


Oh My God... I never thought I'd see the day... Brote Heckler agreeing with Ams Jendob...
But I must say that I agree, I try to put some character development in there, and some of my posts are just that.. sometimes however it is difficult to find the balance.
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I have no wirting skills so rpging things does not come easy. I have tried an RP in the stic senate meeting. I am working on it, but i would not be where i was if i always rpged it...
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 Post Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:06 am    Post subject:
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The ultimate purpose of a board such as this is to have fun, in my opinion. The ability to RP develops as time goes on, people get more familiar jumping into the skin of their different characters, and ultimately become better RPers as they work on their strategy skills. I suggest patience, because in all of the posts I have reviewed, those that don't have "mad RP skyllz" are still becoming better, and if we show a little bit of understanding, we will have a much better situation here.
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I agree with most of the points above. I think one main problem with all of this is connected to something Brote already said. There are just too many factions - plain and simple. I'm not discouraging anyone from going out there, starting their own government and having the thrill of watching it grow. That's part of the game as well, but it seems that it's taking its toll with what Nubis pointed out about character development. Everyone is too concerned whether their faction will survive and not the overall plot line of their character. Let's face it - if your faction falls under and dies, your character will still be around. It won't be the end of the game or your participation in it if your faction fails.

With that being said, yes, we do need more character development throughout the game. Hell, I haven't been involved in one battle yet - it's been strictly character driven posts for me. Wink
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*cough*Lusankya breakout*cough* Joke
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I agree with most of them. However, the post length rule you suggested is out of the question. Even myself at times forgo posting a novel because I simply don't feel like posting one, and when I'm on a schedule to get something done.
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Or when you go back and forth with another player...
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Ams Jendob wrote:
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That wasn't a battle. Joke
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